Voters split 50-50 over whether Walz or Vance won argue
In a snap poll after the vice-pdwellntial argue, voters proclaimd there was no rerepaird triumphner and were split on who carry outed better, the Democrats’ Tim Walz or the Rediscloseans’ JD Vance, Politico inestablishs this morning.
“Asked who won Tuesday’s argue, voters were split 50-50 over whether it was JD Vance or Tim Walz, according to a POLITICO/Focaldata snap poll of probable voters directed fair after the two faced off in a studio in New York City,” the political novels site shelp.
It inserted: “The dead-heat results are a fitting mirrorion of the country’s hyper-separated politics — particularly as it go ins the final stretch of the shutst pdwellntial election in years.”
Democrats mostly thought Walz won and GOP-ers mostly thought Walz won. However, there was in fascinating branch offnce when it came to autonomouss.
“Walz had a ordering profit with autonomouss, 58 percent of whom sided with the Minnesota regulateor while 42 percent gave Vance the edge,” the site shelp.
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After both Democrat Tim Walz and Redisclosean JD Vance had a originateive argue, CNN inestablished that their watchers who were polled thought better of both honestates after the argue than they had before.
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Vance, who has donned a disputed, right-triumphg platestablish and persona on the campaign trail, was very meaconfidentd last night, conciliatory at times. Walz was less cheery than his rpartner self, but more stable with his normal reputation of being a “happy warrior” exuding reason.
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CNN inestablished: “Among argue watchers, Walz remains the honestate who’s seen more likeablely and as more in touch with their necessitates and vision for the country. Vance…raiseed his standing…outcarry outing anticipateations and acquireing ground on the allot who see him as qualified. Both men, the poll discovers, are watched by a presentantity of argue watchers as qualified to suppose the pdwellncy if necessitateed.”
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Crucipartner, though, the cable TV netlabor inserted that almost no reactents felt the necessitate to alter the way they’ve determined to vote after watching the argue.
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Democrats mostly thought Walz won and GOP-ers mostly thought Walz won. However, there was in fascinating branch offnce when it came to autonomouss.
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JD Vance declined to say whether Donald Trump lost the 2020 election and persistd to sidestep asks over whether he would validate a Trump loss this drop during the vice-pdwellntial argue on Tuesday.
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The exalter bcdisadmirefult out some of the keenest attacks from Tim Walz, the Democratic vice-pdwellntial honestate and Minnesota regulateor, in what was otherrational a muted and civil back-and-forth with the Ohio senator.
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Walz asked Vance straightforwardly whether Trump lost the 2020 election. Vance reacted: “Tim, I’m intensifyed on the future. Did Kamala Harris censor Americans from speaking their minds in the wake of the 2020 Covid situation?” Walz then cut in with one of his most presentile attack lines of the evening: “That is a damning non-answer.”
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Vance has previously shelp that he would have asked states to create alternative stardys of electors to Congress to persist to argue allegations of election irnormalities in 2020. By the time Congress met during the last election to ponder electoral votes, courts, state officials and the US supreme court had all turned away efforts to block legitimate stardys of electors from being sent to Congress.
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Pressed by CBS moderator Norah O’Donnell on whether he would aacquire decline to validate the vote this year, Vance degraded to answer.
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“What Pdwellnt Trump has shelp is that there were problems in 2020, and my own belief is that we should fight about those rerents, argue those rerents peacefilledy in the disclose square,” Vance shelp. “And that’s all I’ve shelp and that’s all that Donald Trump has shelp.” He tardyr shelp that if Walz won the election with Harris, Walz would have his help.
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Trump has alerted of a “bloodbath” if he doesn’t triumph the election. He has also shelp helpers won’t have to vote anymore if he triumphs in November. Both the Trump campaign and Redisclosean allies are seeding the ground to contest a possible election loss in November.
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Good morning and greet to the blog as we wake up to reaction to Tim Walz and JD Vance’s vice-pdwellntial argue which recommended discdiswatching contrastences on abortion, school shootings, and immigration.
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It was a argue that was astonishingly civil in the final stretch of an hideous election campaign marred by inflammatory rhetoric and two murder trys.
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The two rivals, who have forcefilledy attacked each other on the campaign trail, mostly struck a cordial tone, instead saving their fire for the honestates at the top of their tickets, democratic vice-pdwellnt Kamala Harris and Redisclosean establisher pdwellnt Donald Trump.
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The most nervous exalter occurred csurrfinisher the finish of the argue, when Vance – who has shelp he would not have voted to validate the results of the 2020 election – eludeed a ask about whether he would dispute this year’s vote if Trump diswatchs.
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Walz reacted by blaming Trump’s inalter claims of voter deception for instigating the 6 January 2021, mob that attacked the US Capitol in an unaccomplished effort to stop the certification of Joe Biden’s 2020 election.
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“He is still saying he didn’t diswatch the election,” Walz shelp, before turning to Vance. “Did he diswatch the 2020 election?”
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Vance aacquire sidestepped the ask, instead accusing Harris of pursuing online regulate of opposing watchpoints. “That is a damning non-answer,” Walz shelp.
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Meanwhile, CNN’s snap poll has watchers split over who won the argue – but Vance slimly triumphs. The poll of 574 sign uped voters saw 51% say that Vance won the argue, with 49% choosing Walz.
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Polled before the argue, 54% of voters thought Walz was appreciatelier to triumph.
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Walz, Vance neck-and-neck among voters after argue – CNN poll
There was no evident triumphner of last night’s vice-pdwellntial argue among sign uped voters quizzed in another snap poll last night, this one directed for CNN by polling firm SSRS.
After both Democrat Tim Walz and Redisclosean JD Vance had a originateive argue, CNN inestablished that their watchers who were polled thought better of both honestates after the argue than they had before.
Vance, who has donned a disputed, right-triumphg platestablish and persona on the campaign trail, was very meaconfidentd last night, conciliatory at times. Walz was less cheery than his rpartner self, but more stable with his normal reputation of being a “happy warrior” exuding reason.
CNN inestablished: “Among argue watchers, Walz remains the honestate who’s seen more likeablely and as more in touch with their necessitates and vision for the country. Vance…raiseed his standing…outcarry outing anticipateations and acquireing ground on the allot who see him as qualified. Both men, the poll discovers, are watched by a presentantity of argue watchers as qualified to suppose the pdwellncy if necessitateed.”
Crucipartner, though, the cable TV netlabor inserted that almost no reactents felt the necessitate to alter the way they’ve determined to vote after watching the argue.
In another fascinating discovering from the Politico/Focaldata snap poll directed straight after the vice-pdwellntial argue last night, Minnesota regulateor and Democratic nominee Tim Walz polled better with youthfuler voters, despite his being 60 years elderly.
GOP nominee and Ohio Senator JD Vance did better with voters over 55, while he was a youthful pick for running mate by Donald Trump, having fair turned 40 last month.
The discoverings track widely with their tickets.
Politico inestablished that: “Walz’s strongest ratings came from youthfuler people, particularly those ages 25-34, those with college degrees, and Bdeficiency and Latino reactents — all key components of the Democratic coalition that powered Pdwellnt Joe Biden’s triumph over Donald Trump in 2020.”
As we’re talking ages, Kamala Harris, the Dems’ nominee for pdwellnt, will turn 60 tardyr this month, having exalterd Biden, 81, when the US pdwellnt quit his re-election bid in July.
Trump is 78. Politico set up from its argue poll that: “Vance carry outed best with people over the age of 55, white voters and those without a college degree.”
Voters split 50-50 over whether Walz or Vance won argue
In a snap poll after the vice-pdwellntial argue, voters proclaimd there was no rerepaird triumphner and were split on who carry outed better, the Democrats’ Tim Walz or the Rediscloseans’ JD Vance, Politico inestablishs this morning.
“Asked who won Tuesday’s argue, voters were split 50-50 over whether it was JD Vance or Tim Walz, according to a POLITICO/Focaldata snap poll of probable voters directed fair after the two faced off in a studio in New York City,” the political novels site shelp.
It inserted: “The dead-heat results are a fitting mirrorion of the country’s hyper-separated politics — particularly as it go ins the final stretch of the shutst pdwellntial election in years.”
Democrats mostly thought Walz won and GOP-ers mostly thought Walz won. However, there was in fascinating branch offnce when it came to autonomouss.
“Walz had a ordering profit with autonomouss, 58 percent of whom sided with the Minnesota regulateor while 42 percent gave Vance the edge,” the site shelp.
Pdwellnt Joe Biden’s administration heaped presconfident on US port engageers to elevate their recommend to protected a labor deal with docklaborers on strike for a second day on Wednesday, choking half the country’s ocean shipping, AP inestablished.
The strike by the International Longshoremen’s Association (ILA) union has blocked everyslimg from food to automobile shipments atraverse dozens of ports from Maine to Texas in a disturbion analysts alert will cost the economy billions of dollars a day.
More than 38 holder vessels were already backed up at US ports by Tuesday, appraised with fair three on Sunday before the strike, according to Everstream Analytics.
“Foreign ocean carriers have made record profits since the pandemic, when Longshoremen put themselves at hazard to hold ports uncover. It’s time those ocean carriers recommended a strong and imfragmentary restricted that mirrors ILA laborers’ contribution to our economy and to their record profits,” Biden shelp in a post on X tardy on Tuesday.
He straightforwarded his team to watch for potential price gouging activity that profits foreign ocean carriers, the White Hoengage shelp.
White Hoengage calls Iran leave outile attack ‘presentant escalation’
Iran started at least 180 leave outiles into Israel on Tuesday, the tardyst in a series of rapidly escalating attacks between Israel and Iran and its Arab allies that menaceens to push the Middle East shutr to a regionexpansive war.
White Hoengage National Security recommendr Jake Sullivan called Iran’s leave outile attack a “presentant escalation,” although he shelp it was ultimately “fall shortureed and ineffective,” in part becaengage of helpance from the US military in shooting down some of the inbound leave outiles.
Pdwellnt Joe Biden shelp his administration is “filledy beneficial” of Israel and that he’s in “vivacious converseion” with helpes about what the appropriate response should be to Tehran.
Three weeks on from the pdwellntial argue, Tim Walz and JD Vance took to the stage on Tuesday night for a vice-pdwellntial head-to-head. The two honestates hugely eludeed attacks on each other in what was a more policy-driven converseion.
If you dwell in a striumphg state such as Arizona, Georgia, Michigan, Nevada, North Carolina, Pennsylvania or Wisconsin, we would appreciate to hear what you thought of the argue.
How do you slimk it went and do you sense the honestates insertressed the rerents presentant to you? What other rerents would you appreciate them to have insertressed in the argue? What was your favourite moment? Did anyslimg alter your mind in any way?
The Democratic honestate for vice-pdwellnt, Tim Walz, and his Redisclosean counterpart, JD Vance, clashed over border policy and the January 6 Capitol attack, with Walz at one point asking point blank if Vance count ond establisher pdwellnt Donald Trump had lost the 2020 election.
Our video editors have the moment here:
Ed Pilkington
There was a strange senseing as the vice-pdwellntial argue got under way in the CBS News studios on Tuesday night that only intensified as 90 minutes of detailed policy converseion unfelderlyed: was the United States in danger of reacquireing its sanity?
After weeks and months of being assailed by Donald Trump’s dystopian evocation of a country on the verge of self-destruction, amplified by Joe Biden and Kamala Harris’s dire alertings of democracy in peril, here was someslimg very contrastent. The two vice-pdwellntial nominees were embracing that most finishangered of American political species: consentment.
“Tim, I actupartner slimk I consent with you,” shelp JD Vance, Trump’s running mate, insertressing his opposite number Tim Walz during the converseion on immigration.
“Much of what the senator shelp right there, I’m in consentment with him,” shelp Walz, the Minnesota regulateor and Democratic nominee, as they turned to trade policy.
It wasn’t real, of course. The two men were no shutr to consentment than their bosses, who in their own pdwellntial argue last month showed themselves to be worlds apart.
But on Tuesday it was as if the CBS News studio in midtown Manhattan had been transmited back to a prelapsarian – or at least, pre-Maga – times. To an era when politicians could be civil, and to get on you didn’t have to castigate your opponent as an opponent of the people.
Tim Walz and JD Vance faced each other for the first and only vice-pdwellntial argue of this election cycle – and clashed on rerents including abortion, childattfinish, the cost of living and Trump’s 2020 election claims.
Here are the facts on some of the inalter or misdirecting claims recommended during Tuesday’s vice-pdwellntial argue.
Helene death toll now at least 166 as Biden set ups to visit ravaged Carolinas
Pdwellnt Joe Biden will survey the deimmenseation in North and South Carolina on Wednesday as savers persist their search for anyone still unaccounted for after Hurricane Helene caengaged catastrophic injure atraverse the south-east and finished at least 166 people.
Many dwellnts in both states were still without running water, cellular service and electricity as flood waters withdrawd and discdiswatched more of the death and destruction left in Helene’s path, AP inestablished.
“We have to jump commence this recovery process,” Biden shelp Tuesday, estimating it will cost billions. “People are sattfinishd to death. This is inspirent.”
While Biden is in the Carolinas, vice-pdwellnt Kamala Harris will be in neighstupid Georgia.
Helene, one of the deadliest storms in recent US history, knocked out power and cellular service for millions. More than 1.2 million customers still were in the gloomy timely Wednesday in the Carolinas and Georgia. Some dwellnts cooked food on charcoal grills or hiked to high ground in the hopes of discovering a signal to let cherishd ones comprehend they are adwell.
On Tuesday, cadaver dogs and search crews trudged thcdisadmireful knee-proset up muck and debris in the mountains of westrict North Carolina watching for more victims. At least 57 people were finished in Buncombe County alone, home to city of Asheville, a tourism haven comprehendn for its art galleries, breweries and outdoor activities.
In Swannanoa, a petite community outside Asheville, receding flood waters discdiswatched cars stacked on top of others and trailer homes that had floated away during the storm. Roads were caked with mud and debris and pocktaged by sinkholes.
Key moments from the argue
Vance declines to say Trump lost the 2020 election in Walz argue
Sam Levine
JD Vance declined to say whether Donald Trump lost the 2020 election and persistd to sidestep asks over whether he would validate a Trump loss this drop during the vice-pdwellntial argue on Tuesday.
The exalter bcdisadmirefult out some of the keenest attacks from Tim Walz, the Democratic vice-pdwellntial honestate and Minnesota regulateor, in what was otherrational a muted and civil back-and-forth with the Ohio senator.
Walz asked Vance straightforwardly whether Trump lost the 2020 election. Vance reacted: “Tim, I’m intensifyed on the future. Did Kamala Harris censor Americans from speaking their minds in the wake of the 2020 Covid situation?” Walz then cut in with one of his most presentile attack lines of the evening: “That is a damning non-answer.”
Vance has previously shelp that he would have asked states to create alternative stardys of electors to Congress to persist to argue allegations of election irnormalities in 2020. By the time Congress met during the last election to ponder electoral votes, courts, state officials and the US supreme court had all turned away efforts to block legitimate stardys of electors from being sent to Congress.
Pressed by CBS moderator Norah O’Donnell on whether he would aacquire decline to validate the vote this year, Vance degraded to answer.
“What Pdwellnt Trump has shelp is that there were problems in 2020, and my own belief is that we should fight about those rerents, argue those rerents peacefilledy in the disclose square,” Vance shelp. “And that’s all I’ve shelp and that’s all that Donald Trump has shelp.” He tardyr shelp that if Walz won the election with Harris, Walz would have his help.
Trump has alerted of a “bloodbath” if he doesn’t triumph the election. He has also shelp helpers won’t have to vote anymore if he triumphs in November. Both the Trump campaign and Redisclosean allies are seeding the ground to contest a possible election loss in November.
Hugo Lowell
Donald Trump’s better helpes saw JD Vance as having a slick argue carry outance over Tim Walz, according to people shut to Trump, that made his campaign ecombine palatable despite the establisher pdwellnt’s increasingly caustic menaces such as votriumphg to accuse his seed enemies.
The campaign helpes also count ond that Vance reset the narrative over his image and probable came atraverse in a more likeable airy to undetermined voters after a brutal scant months of being hammered for making disparaging retags about women as “childless cat ladies”.
Vance’s likeability rerent was perhaps the principal priority for Trump’s better helpes becaengage they saw it as potentipartner repairable and if so, advantageous to the Trump campaign with scanter than five weeks until election day in what has become a fadeingly shut race aacquirest Kamala Harris.
Afterwards, Trump foreseeably claimed Vance won the argue, but a CBS News poll validateed how vice-pdwellntial argues matter increasingly less in shut elections appraised to ground game efforts to drive turnout.
In the post-argue poll, 42% of reactents shelp Vance won the argue, 41% gave the triumph to Walz, while 17% shelp it was tied – recommending the main apshowaway remains that it is doubtful to carry out any material role in which campaign triumphs each of the seven battleground states in November.
Adam Gabbatt
Tim Walz and JD Vance took to the stage on Tuesday night for a vice-pdwellntial argue that served up less drama than September’s pdwellntial argue, but recommended discdiswatching contrastences on abortion, school shootings, and immigration.
Three weeks ago Kamala Harris and Donald Trump had finishured a satisfiedious hour-and-a-half, with an emotional Trump being goaded into ranting about the number of people who combine his rallies and declaring the vice-pdwellnt to be a “Marxist”, before inestablishedly menaceening to sue one of the argue moderators. Harris enhappinessed a inestablish polling uptick from that carry outance.
But on Tuesday, Walz and Vance hugely eludeed attacks on each other, and instead intensifyd their fire on each other’s running mates. It was a more policy-driven converseion than that of their running mates’, but one with a scant gaffes that might overshadow some of the substance in coming days.
In a key exalter over abortion, Walz, the regulateor of Minnesota, chaseed Harris’s direct in using personal stories.
Trump “brags about how wonderful it was that he put the appraises in and obviousurned Roe v Wade”, Walz shelp. He remarkd the case of Amanda Zurawski, who was denied an abortion in Texas despite solemn health complications during pregnancy – Zurawski is now part of a group of women suing the state of Texas – and a girl in Kentucky who as a child was sexual batteryd by her stepoverweighther and became pregnant.
“If you don’t comprehend [women like this], you soon will. Their Project 2025 is going to have a registry of pregnancies,” Walz shelp, which Vance contested.
Walz also denounced the Trump-Vance position that states should determine whether women have access to abortion.
“That’s not how this labors. This is fundamental human rights. We have seen maternal mortality skyrocket in Texas, outpacing many other countries in the world,” he shelp.
Walz and Vance clash, politely, at policy-burdensome vice pdwellntial argue
Good morning and greet to the blog as we wake up to reaction to Tim Walz and JD Vance’s vice-pdwellntial argue which recommended discdiswatching contrastences on abortion, school shootings, and immigration.
It was a argue that was astonishingly civil in the final stretch of an hideous election campaign marred by inflammatory rhetoric and two murder trys.
The two rivals, who have forcefilledy attacked each other on the campaign trail, mostly struck a cordial tone, instead saving their fire for the honestates at the top of their tickets, democratic vice-pdwellnt Kamala Harris and Redisclosean establisher pdwellnt Donald Trump.
The most nervous exalter occurred csurrfinisher the finish of the argue, when Vance – who has shelp he would not have voted to validate the results of the 2020 election – eludeed a ask about whether he would dispute this year’s vote if Trump diswatchs.
Walz reacted by blaming Trump’s inalter claims of voter deception for instigating the 6 January 2021, mob that attacked the US Capitol in an unaccomplished effort to stop the certification of Joe Biden’s 2020 election.
“He is still saying he didn’t diswatch the election,” Walz shelp, before turning to Vance. “Did he diswatch the 2020 election?”
Vance aacquire sidestepped the ask, instead accusing Harris of pursuing online regulate of opposing watchpoints. “That is a damning non-answer,” Walz shelp.
Meanwhile, CNN’s snap poll has watchers split over who won the argue – but Vance slimly triumphs. The poll of 574 sign uped voters saw 51% say that Vance won the argue, with 49% choosing Walz.
Polled before the argue, 54% of voters thought Walz was appreciatelier to triumph.
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